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Okey. I agree. But just proposed another look on it. You could get this material on ebay for let's say 10 $ from somebody else. Anyway this money would go to some dude. And to pay 10 $ for postage to him. And let's say one has only 10 $  for food for next month. What is the good here - not to practice for a month and wait  or practice? What is your look on it? And must you buy a material from lineage holder or if you buy it on ebay is it SIN?

Since all arises from the heart, it's the intention that makes your deeds pure or not. You can pay $10 an entry ticket to a place physical or online when you can have "free" material, what makes it a wrong doing is your intention to get stolen material. Ebay is not the problem, your intention is. The same if you register to a public library to borrow books and dvd's and  make copies of them. Although you payed for registering, if your intention is to copy them, then you're stealing. that's simple.

If you don't have $10 to spend on a teaching but only on your food, then what's the problem? Avidity is the problem which makes you wanting the teaching and the food when you can only have one of them at the moment. Make more $ to be able to get both. That's creating right karma. If I give myself excuses to steal, kill, there will be no ending to that. 

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Did Goddess give this practice to humanity to make money on it? This is good issue.

If someone does not have money to pay for materials and doesn't have money even for food but want to practice?

And not stealing it but just got chance to get online?

And at the same time someone wants more money for materials and increases the price? What is the good and bad?

I took this example to adapt the question to one of the component of our modern times. There are a lot of ways of "paying" for a teaching you receive. In our times, using money is just of way of framing some kind of exchanges between people. In ancient times, people had to pay by other means.

Don't you think that paying for a teaching you receive is a way (not the most noble, not the only one of course) to repay a small part of your debt to the lineage your receive it from? Get something online "for free" without paying back the people who made the material available is stealing in my eyes, and I would not dare practicing a teaching knowing that I did not receive it in a clean way. To me this has nothing to do with legal matters, it has to do with inner matters. And to me again (but that's just me), if you get something online for free when it was designed to be purchased, you will pay it in another way, and not in a way you will necessarily appreciate. This is just the basic level.

Best,

1.Don’t get caught by words, give your full attention to reality. Lying is lying, stealing is stealing, killing is killing etc whatever you choose to call these actions. Even if you choose to avoid the word “sin” for these actions, will it change anything to them? Everything we do has a multi-level impact on us: on our body (organs), our affectivity and our train of thoughts.  This is not only about morality it is also about the impact such actions have on the very functioning of our being, physical, psychical and spiritual. Did you noticed that any negative action has an immediate consequence on your being (not even talking about the consequences to come later) ? In my experience,  I am taxing myself when I commit any negative action, and to me at least, wording it as “karmic debt” is exactly spot on here.  But again, the words are not important, but the reality of what is going on is. Let's say someone practice FP or SYG from stolen material (I mean material people get with the clear intention of avoiding paying for it). If you were that Goddess, would you find it right that such people benefit from these systems? Check it out for yourself. 

2.Don’t get caught by the way some people choose to present their ideas. David Twicken is the author of the material you posted about Hun and Po.  Be aware that Healing Tao (Mantak Chia, Michael Winn, David Twicken etc..) found its marketing niche by presenting the material they promote in such a way that people who had a problem with Christianity could become customers ( no morality system, promise of sexual fulfillment, rejection of the Christian Father like God etc…).  But that doesn’t change anything to reality: everything we do has a multi-level impact on us: on our body (organs), our affectivity and our train of thoughs. Mantak Chia chose to erase any reference to a fixed set of moral values but do you think that Daoism could go without any reference to good and bad, whatever content you give to these ideas?

If I was you, I would ask myself these questions: why could it be important to be pure or trying to be so when practicing such a yogic system like FP or SYG given their explicit aim? If the story of the Goddess is true, why did she insist that FP system should be taught only to the right people? Why should it be different with any other system?  

I am just throwing here my 2 cts.  Good luck in your search.

Please forgive me, Sifu Terry and fellow followers of this thread. If you feel that this post is inappropriate to this thread, I will happily delete my post if you ask me.

You dont need to mix anything into the FP, argh!!!  FP is a huge system, you guys are on basics and you all wanting to mix things, I dont get it!!!???

Hi Sifu Garry,

I don't practice yoga. Every system has requirements and an order to follow. That's what I was saying.

Best,

Pranayama and asana should go alongside

Hi Eugene,

The following is extracted from the Patanjali's Yoga-Sutra : please look at verses 46 and 49.