Mahberry

Haha, very ironic and not the Alanis Morisette kind. So, what have all of you get from shouting down xabir? How has contempt before investigation served any of you? If no self can be made sense of then it would be in a book and everyone can read themselves into attainment. That would be great though, then everyone can do with a lot less suffering.

What do you get from all this Informer? Surely you yourself know too you're pulling this all out from your butt? That's all I have to say.

I think that is fairly obvious from his previous posts even before gems like: But it is just not right to dismiss his personal crusade against RT without actually clarifying. Now anyone reading this and the previous page can make an informed opinion regarding his false RT suggested no self realization. No way someone who's seen it would say this:

You hurt my feelings. I think I'll stop now.

Does this mean your false no self realization requires the knowledge of the chakra system that without it the realization can't take place?

I don't follow. Why false self?

Yea, why wouldn't Seth Ananda visit the forums anymore?

I guess I'll just leave other people to make sense of it later.

I can't make sense of this at all. What is meant by self isn't a single aspect as the ego would have it?

Can you expand on your realization a little bit more? What brings you to the conclusion that the self as ego is false?

Did you have a post somewhere describing what it was like when you first will yourself into believing the no self fallacy? I might just drop the entire thing if it matches mine.

Tell me, what is your realization like?

See it for yourself, then only decide on whether you still want to shit on it.

That's reassuring. Thank you! I guess all I need is more seeing for it to sink in.

Hey xabir (and Vajra and CowTao), yesterday I was observing my thoughts trying to look for an I. Something shifted and I see the only I that ever existed was in the thoughts. There is an I because the thoughts said so. It was so obvious there was never an I apart from the thoughts. Thing is the moment I try to describe the experience, the I has slowly crept back in and I'm back to living my thoughts again. I've almost forgotten what the seeing is like and now all that's left is an understanding the seeing left behind. Hearer was never there, it was only a thought that says "I am hearing." Seer was never there, it was only a thought that says "I am seeing." Thinker was never there, it was only a thought that says "I am thinking." There was no truth to anything apart from what the thought says, if I am confused or frustrated it was because the thoughts said so. I will never know otherwise because I was never not my thoughts. The seeing was doubtlessly real but if it can be lost, might it be a false seeing? I'm still trying to get back into seeing as of now.