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Theocracy Movement In The U.S.

16 April 2014 - 06:28 AM

There are many examples of such intrusions and this is a threat to the separation of church and state. Steve Green the President of Hobby Lobby thinks kids should learn the impact of the bible on Western civilization in a four year elective course in public schools. He also states that in a future time the teaching of the bible should be mandated. Keep this out of the schools!







According to the Religious News Service, the “Museum of the Bible Curriculum” created by Hobby Lobby’s President Steve Green (pictured above) will be beta-tested in Oklahoma’s Mustang Public School district beginning in the Fall of 2014.

Green hopes the program — which will be overseen by Jerry Pattengale, head of the Green Scholars Initiative — will be placed in “hundreds” of high schools by 2016, and “thousands” by 2017. It is a four-year elective course in which students will study the narrative, history, and impact of the Bible on Western Civilization. Because the book is being taught within an academic purview, it does not violate the Establishment Clause of the Constitution as interpreted by the Supreme Court in Abington School District v. Schempp.

“Nothing we have said here indicates that such study of the Bible,” the Court decided, “when presented objectively as part of a secular program of education, may not be effected consistently with the First Amendment.”


Statements made by Green when he received the 2013 Templeton Prize for Progress Toward Research or Discoveries about Spiritual Realities strongly suggest that the material in the Museum of the Bible Curriculum will neither be “presented objectively” nor “part of a secular program.”

In the speech, Green refers to the Bible as a “reliable historical document” that’s had a “great impact on the world,” but that people don’t understand that impact. “It’s our job to point that out,” Green said, “to show that whether it be our government, education, science, art, literature, family, on and on in every area of our life.”

“The goal is to show that the impact of this book, when we apply it to our lives, has been good, because it has. So it’s good, and it’s true,” Green said, before moving on to discuss the other section of the curriculum, which would be “the story of the Bible.”

“We’re as ignorant [as] we’ve ever been, would be my argument,” Green said, “because we aren’t teaching it in our schools.”

“That would be the goal,” he continued, “to reintroduce this book to this nation, because it is in danger, because of its ignorance, of what God has taught. There is [sic] lessons of the past that we can learn from the dangers of ignorance of this book. We need to know it, and if we don’t know it, our future is going to be very scary.”

“Some day,” he said, teaching the Bible in high school “should be mandated. Here’s a book that’s impacted our world unlike any other and you’re not going to teach it?”

When asked about Green’s statements, Pattengale would only say that “[t]he curriculum may or may not espouse those views. The last people [Green] wanted to hire were scholars who would embellish the facts to support his religious position.”


Dream Hikes

08 March 2014 - 11:37 AM

Anyone that has hiked, climbed or backpacked in the wilderness must have a dream hike destination. Here is my first one. Mt. Whitney on the John Muir trail. I have camped out next to the glacial end moraine below Whitney (above Lone Pine).






The Fallacy Of Believing In Absolute Certainty.

23 February 2014 - 06:14 PM

"Only the Madman is absolutely sure" Robert Anton Wilson.




Evolution vs. Creationism. Bill Nye Debates Ken Ham.

04 February 2014 - 07:31 PM

Bill Nye who is known as 'The Science Guy' debates Ken Ham who is the director of the 'Creation Museum' in Kentucky.




George Zimmerman boxing match.

31 January 2014 - 10:19 AM

Zimmerman challenged and Ali Bomaye aka 'The Game' accepted. Zimmerman will get his ass kicked! 







Acquitted killer George Zimmerman says he wants to take up boxing – and celebrity rapper The Game says he’s more than happy to be George Zimmerman’s first opponent. 

TMZ reported that the Ali Bomaye rapper has accepted a challenge to box the infamous George Zimmerman in a celebrity boxing match being promoted by Damon Feldman. The fight is scheduled for March 1 and all proceeds go to charity. The Game is 240lbs and 6’5″ and heavily muscled. Zimmerman is 5’7″, and his weight has fluctuated from 185lbs. to 285lbs. by media accounts – most of it generally not muscle. 

The Game said: 

“I will beat the f**k out of him. I would not be boxing for me. I’d be boxing for the legacy of Trayvon Martin and for his family. I would box him to knock him out and I would definitely take pleasure in it. It’s legal, and I want to show him you can solve your disputes without a weapon.”