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  1. Nathan Brine

  2. Fabrizio Pregadio

    Greetings and salutations! I remember exchanging 3 or 4 messages with him on this forum when he was introducing his new book . Long time ago, and for the life of me i cant find those now. If you wanna know anything specific pls let me know. Ironically his groundbreaking work is on the laboratory elixir which understandably is of only academic interest.
  3. Nathan Brine

    i totally do. like i mentioned in our field of neidan immortality is predicated on having the elixir. so the elixir is a proxy for immortality. having the elixir cannot be proven to an outsider but having the elixir can totally be verbally proven to an experienced insider. It is the same in Buddhism with 'emptiness', advaita and ony other milestones. Any milestones in buddhism or taoism can be verbally described and whoever experienced these milestones will unavoidably describe them using certain keywords (even without ever hearing those keywords before). Thats why i always ask 'hey what thats feel like' and if i get a shuffle dance in lieu of a precise reply i know that is not it;) excellent, here he is https://g.co/kgs/dhtqmDx (i hope i got the pronoun right)
  4. Nathan Brine

    all right hombre thats it,now you owe us a strange and unusual anecdote of your own personal experience pretty please (not necessarily a haha anecdote, otherwise that would turn into an inside joke) eh its an albatross around my pencil neck i tell ya
  5. Nathan Brine

    of course you did , and you were. Thank you very much. Who can forget the curious case of the travelling liver? Not me. or this. Or the senior citizen who on this forum claimed to deflect a hurricane with magic. If an eyewitness says it happened then it happened. No argument there, i am totally convinced that it did happen for you good folk. Unfortuntely, it did not not happen in my reality which is my loss;) Going back to the OP, what WLP and Brine purport to teach is immortality (neidan in western parlance) . Its a weird way to make a living but hey, not the weirdest one. Now when a teacher teaches immortality, is either he is an immortal already - then he knows what he teaches. Or he is not immortal yet - then he is a fraud. And being immortal or not starts from having a little thing called neidan, or the elixir. So per the OP whoever is interested in Brine just gotta ask him: "Sifu with all due respect, you teach neidan, so....do you have the neidan? " Then watch the shuffle dance begin.
  6. Stuart Alve Olson

    i remember reading him a long time ago. It is an ok read for an absolute nubie but otherwise a waste of time, particularly his Taijiquan books
  7. Nathan Brine

    i am a master of my domain oh i just ask questions, i never argue;) ...and i never get angry;)
  8. Nathan Brine

    sure. ask any WLP student what did they get from him exactly? Ask how WLP got in cahoots with David Verdesi and how they disowned each other over the seminar fees? Ask what WLP got and where is he now? All of this is so past century anyway;) ...its like arguing whether the Ninja Turtles can beat the Transformers, hehe
  9. Nathan Brine

    it is actually a red flag. however i was speaking of personal achievements. Brine is teaching neidan. Without having the neidan. Which is hilarious but hey, to everyone his own;)
  10. Fabrizio Pregadio

    he is excellent. the gold standard in the field.
  11. Stuart Alve Olson

    depends on what you want to get out of him. he is par for the course meaning he got nothing, also a boomer.
  12. Nathan Brine

    i took a look. he is par for the course meaning he got nothing.
  13. Of course. In my reality, the trad ones verbally explain the milestones very clearly (e.g buddhist jhanas). the modern ones who attain the milestones also do so (e.g one of my students). But thank you very much anyway.
  14. in general when the modern mystics try to share, they undermine it by not providing definitions and by not providing concrete examples. While the intent is commendable, the message is fuzzy. If you want us to understand what you write you should explain that in your mind a thing is not an object. because it is kinda clashes with a dictionary. Then, pls provide an example. like here. i am very interested in what @stirling says but i have to ask him for an example 'how the emptiness feels like, what do you see?' otherwise i dont know what he is trying to say.
  15. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circular_reasoning