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Sam FS Chin, I have not met someone who, with a genuine heart, exemplifies all that you seek, as much as Sam. He is one of the few who can actually demonstrate 'unusual' power so many others speak of, not only that, he'll show you how he does it. His understanding and embodiment of both Daoist and Ch'an Buddhist philosophy is also very deep. His family art is a genuine path into Dao.

I agree

If you want to practice Neigung to improve your martial arts, that's not seeking power. At least you have a measurable goal.

Mo Pai comes from a certain region, and all of the schools that come from that region are most likely equivalents. There are other schools, other teachings that produce results-- the difference is that developed practitioners have not been filmed or appeared in books that have been discussed for the last ~20 something years.

If you stick around this community, you will see that there are people on this board teaching from authentic Taoist lineages. They don't advertise. They don't get involved with the "how great is your teacher" threads.

If you're interested in this for martial arts, I really think you should get out and actually look at what's available in the different styles. Some people just want to talk about fighting; some people want to fight and not talk; some people want to fight and talk; and some people are doing some stuff that will completely blow your mind when you meet the people with "the goods."

I've gone that route. It takes time, but I've learned over the last few months that a lot of the shit I didn't think was real is real.

So yeah, there's other stuff besides Mo Pai out there, and the people practicing aren't talking about it too much because they are too busy practicing.

Why don't you critics post a better example then?




You just said you don't have enough knowledge to judge yet then you judge . . .

uhmm...at what point did I say what you're implying? There is a conversation on sung, and a conversation on the video by the original poster. I saw fixed patterns and immediately was aware that this is some type of training drill and not actual "Taiji" sparring.

Anyway, from your past posts, you seem to like to debate over small stuff, so do you, bro. Do you.  

You can't turn any theory into sung. You can't learn sung from a dictionary. Your body has to learn it from a real teacher, your mind has to get a clue as the outcome, and then your practice has to perfect the real skill rather than a construct of your imagination. The problem being that if you start out with a wrong mindset your body can't ever get a chance to learn. Paradox.

I used to talk about what I thought was sung, until I met someone who let me feel sung. I don't talk about what I think sung is, even after feeling it. I can talk about the things I experienced, but until I know what it's like to be on the giving AND receiving end, I don't feel as if I can talk about sung.

I liked what Taomeow says here. If you can figure this stuff out without a teacher or someone who is more sung than you to help, then big ups to you-- I however do not have this ability yet.

As for the original post-- that's not Tai Ji Sparring-- hell it isn't even good Sanshou.

His whole body was mobilized by his opponent. He cannot hold his center position because the opponent's Jin is in full control. By the way that the people are giving advices, here, about Tai Ji, it seems to me that some are just totally lack of the knowledge about Jin or Fa Jin.

Right, He said he was only going to play "at my level." He  pointed out that I'm really tense from my kettlebell workouts with my clients and will have to learn to balance my own training with IMA. Even still, I'm leaning because I'm being pushed and/or pulled. One minute he was a brick wall and the next he was a magnet.

There was a lot that was demonstrated with him that he asked us not to share, so I will just say that I witness various things that others have mentioned here.

Anyway, this guy has basically adopted my Taiji club here. I also have another teacher who I mentioned as being a former student of Michael Phillips. He is really freaking good, too!

I guess maybe this video falls more in line with this thread-- this is just a demonstration of different kinds of Fajin only using different parts of the body-- none of the stuff above our paygrades. There were some other demonstrations that were flat out scary, though.