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#1 Mantra68

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Posted 18 May 2008 - 03:45 AM

Hey folks,
A lot of people have asked about Philip Toledo. He's the guy who illegally sells Max's old videos from his web site. We have asked you not to because he does not pay Max any royalties.

It is sad that he is confused, but as many of you know, Max is still very much alive. He did fake his own death a few years ago when I met him in New Mexico to remove himself from his life in Hawaii. Many teachers have done this in the past for a period of time to see what their students will do in their absence. When the teacher returns the shit usually hits the fan.

Some simply refuse to accept the reality that the teacher has not actually died and was merely testing them.

That's the deal here.

Take care,

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Edited by Mantra68, 22 June 2009 - 06:57 PM.

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Posted 18 May 2008 - 03:57 AM

Chris,

If he doesn't stop selling them, then you just release the videos yourself! You could sell em or you could just make them freely available - either way, it would solve the 'problem' rather elegantly...

:)

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Posted 19 May 2008 - 02:01 AM

Hey there everyone, thanks for an interesting post mantra, i am unfamilar with masters faking there own death for the benefit of their students? is this a tradition in some lineages?

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Posted 19 May 2008 - 06:09 AM

Max faked his own death?
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Posted 19 May 2008 - 07:35 AM

Thanks Mantra68 for the info

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Posted 20 May 2008 - 02:15 PM

Just another day in the life of Sifu Max!! :lol:

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Posted 04 June 2008 - 04:26 AM

Hey there everyone, thanks for an interesting post mantra, i am unfamilar with masters faking there own death for the benefit of their students? is this a tradition in some lineages?



what james said.

It sounds like this guy Philip feels that 'your' Max isnt the 'former' Max that he knew.

Is this in some sense true?

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Posted 04 June 2008 - 07:27 AM

what james said.

It sounds like this guy Philip feels that 'your' Max isnt the 'former' Max that he knew.

Is this in some sense true?



Well as my friends have said time & time again this "Max" is different than the old. It could be the character, the expression, and or who is running the present "vehicle".

I wonder why the need to "FAKE" your death? what is the purpose? Why the Theatrics?
Seems un-needed....
But hey thats the path he chooses.
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Posted 04 June 2008 - 07:43 AM

If you do purchase things from him, don't forget to pick up plenty of those "chi-packed" audio tapes. "Listen to my chi!"

Awesome.


Do you imply that Chi can not be embedded into an audio recording or any media for that manner?

It is sad that he is confused, but as many of you know, Max is still very much alive. He did fake his own death a few years ago when I met him in New Mexico to remove himself from his life in Hawaii. Many teachers have done this in the past for a period of time to see what their students will do in their absence. When the teacher returns the shit usually hits the fan.

Some simply refuse to accept the reality that the teacher has not actually died and was merely testing them.

That's the deal here.

It is kinda funny and kinda not.

Take care,

~Chris


Kind of irresponsible if you ask me...
Why do that ? What to so you can say you are cutting your attachements to them? Balony just say "hey its time to fly away from the nest and do your own thing" if the students do not need you anymore.

It just dies when it dies....

Something here seems FISHY...

I mean some people fake ther death to avoid the IRS, Child Support payments Delinquencies, or to avoid being persecuted or killed.

What I do know is Have dealt with friends that new Max in the past and what he is doing now is different and "marketed". But he has always been known as great guy good teacher and a bullshitter all wrapped up into one burrito. :)

I have only a few interactions with Toledo and all i can say is he is a very nice man and a good healer.

I worked with him to heal a mutual friend of ours. His transmissions & energy work was very strong. And he was able to go into realms to work that most people can not. So I would not be so quick to "dismiss" him or label him as Bonky. If that is the case than he is Bonky as Max is....

I think he and Max should work out their stuff personally evidently things need to be worked out. Instead of having people label Toledo names when they have never met the guy. Bad Juju Mantra 68 to trash a guy that probably has more experience and development than you do.....not to mention in theory to the old customs regardless of whether he is still in or not with your teacher he was at one point in which there for makes him your SENIOR.


Truth is if you do not want him selling things that may interfer with the present marketing scheme....

Then just put the old ones out for free and cal it "OLD STUFF" AKA not the new and improved KUN LUN v.10.0

Peace to you and to Max & to Sifu Toledo...

God Bless,

Santiago Dobles

p.s. KUNLUN is ancient Bon po :P

Edited by Vajrasattva, 04 June 2008 - 07:52 AM.

Om Benza Sato Hung Phey

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Posted 04 June 2008 - 07:51 AM

Very well said Santiago
I have these feelings as well something is off with this story. I enjoy the Kunlun but Iím not so sure what its doing for me and what the long term exp will be. I wish Max or someone would give a detailed exp of what this is doing to your channels and chakras as it is seen clairvoyantly and what is happening to the etheric astral and mental bodies as well. If people have the "3rd" eye open then this should not be a problem..
Peace

Edited by Jedi777, 04 June 2008 - 07:52 AM.


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Posted 04 June 2008 - 08:34 AM

Vajrasattva,

It's nice to see a well-considered and balanced counterpoint perspective to the Kunlun craze... you are definitely an asset to the abbey.

Your pal,
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Posted 04 June 2008 - 09:34 AM

Well as my friends have said time & time again this "Max" is different than the old. It could be the character, the expression, and or who is running the present "vehicle".

I wonder why the need to "FAKE" your death? what is the purpose? Why the Theatrics?
Seems un-needed....
But hey thats the path he chooses.



OK, lets draw you out a bit on this subject.

You seem to be saying that you think Max is currently possessed by a new energy or entity than he previously was and that is why there is a perceived difference by people who knew him in the "old days".
Is this your perception or only your supposition?

Is this the possible result of delving in certain practices and/or making contact with non-physical realm entities?

Is Kunlun powerful because the transmission is hooking people up with a very strong lineage Qi which also has changed Max from what he once was to what he now presents himself as? Is this related to powerful non physical entities? Does this have any connection to earlier allusions about Aliens and other stuff which Cameron swore not to go into detail about?

And then there is the whole faking your own death stuff. When Mantra68 first came out with this revelation I was like "well gee, instead of going for the simple explanation it looks like Mantra68 is pulling out all the stops and stirring up the plot even more. This is really getting fun."

At this point I don't even care, but I am starting to daydream about writing a really cool fantasy/science fiction novel based on all of this. Probably Mantra68 will beat me to it, after all he has good self publishing resources to draw on, and an apparently fertile imagination.

OK, I'll go back to lurking now.

Craig
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Posted 04 June 2008 - 09:36 AM

...

Thank you for the sensible post.
What a relief to read!

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Posted 04 June 2008 - 09:46 AM

At this point I don't even care, but I am starting to daydream about writing a really cool fantasy/science fiction novel based on all of this.



You should do it, Craig. :)

This is very entertaining....
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Posted 04 June 2008 - 09:55 AM

You should do it, Craig. :)

This is very entertaining....



I just had another idea.


This needs to go at the head of the front page of TTB.


"The Tao Bums should be played for entertainment purposes only. TTB is not intended as a replacement for any actual cultivation practice. Please consult a professional before engaging in any practices or methods presented at TTB. Sean Omlor is not responsible for any damage resulting from prematurely awakened Kundalini and/or excessive retention practices. Please use responsibly and make sure to HAVE A REAL LIFE"

PS - not feeling serious about anything today.

Craig
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Posted 04 June 2008 - 10:08 AM

Surgeon General Warning. Tabumming may be bad for your mental health.


:lol:


We need to have Cam disapear (he can still post under another avatar as a long lost twin brother or something) keep it vague as to whether it involved a space ship, men in black, normal Kunlun disaperation, etc. but drop hints about it frequently.

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