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As to why I posted this in General Discussion - simply to bring attention to the fact that racism works on the same principles as cult mind manipulation, and to 1) watch out for it, 2) show people what they're dealing with when someone pressures them with such ideologies, 3) have a better idea of why it's so difficult to make connections between cultures and peoples, and 4) maybe somehow make it easier to bridge the gap with more awareness of the walls that were built around us.

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Are you claiming that racial street crime rates are all the same...or at least the same based on the same income levels?

No, but life is harder in the Black ghettos. A poor white kid, coming from a rough upbringing with all of his mental battle scars still has a chance of getting a job. A poor black kid exhibiting any such thing will almost never be hired. Too often he will even be feared from the second he walks in the door. So naturally there is an underground economy which can't be regulated, which means violence and fear of violence is the only law, and crime is the only reliable income. The people who are enterprising enough to get into that economy end up with some power in the neighbourhood, while all the kids that just happened to be born there have to deal with that environment. It's not easy to get out of that situation when no one will hire you and you're born into poverty, and even when you do manage to make enough to move a nicer neighbourhood you get rejected for the apartments you want simply 'cause your Black and "fit the stereotype" that is so embedded in peoples minds.

 

 

So, are all stereotypes wrong? You yourself said that, "For the record, I never said there are "no differences" between races and cultures." So, you imply that you believe some stereotypes are statistically-valid...while also implying that they're all nonetheless racist...but valid?

 

Could you elaborate on what racial and cultural differences you specifically DO believe in? And how that differs from the racial & cultural stereotyping which offends you?

 

Is there a difference between cultures? Obviously. Does race often, though not always, correspond to culture? Obviously.

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No, but life is harder in the Black ghettos. A poor white kid, coming from a rough upbringing with all of his mental battle scars still has a chance of getting a job. A poor black kid exhibiting any such thing will almost never be hired.

Is there a difference between cultures? Obviously. Does race often, though not always, correspond to culture? Obviously.

Uh, have you ever heard of "affirmative action?" It was already legislated to address those complaints decades ago...

 

And as a result now, Black kids can now effectively score 310 pts lower than Whites and 450 pts lower than Asians on the SAT to get into American universities.

empirical look at the individual factors that dramatically raise or lower the likelihood of acceptance into the leading American universities which select the next generation of our national elites. The research certainly supports the widespread perception that non-academic factors play a major role in the process, including athletic ability and “legacy” status. But as we saw earlier, even more significant are racial factors, with black ancestry being worth the equivalent of 310 points, Hispanics gaining 130 points, and Asian students being penalized by 140 points, all relative to white applicants on the 1600 point Math and Reading SAT scale.

So, I don't know how much easier it can be made? A Black kid can literally slack his way through school and still gain admission over an Asian or White kid busting his azz 16 hrs a day. Because of mentalities like yours.

 

And of course, affirmative action applies to the workplace as well..

 

And again, so you believe in the same racial/cultural stereotypes...that you also are offended by? :wacko:

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Uh, have you ever heard of "affirmative action?" It was already legislated to address those complaints decades ago...

 

And as a result now, Black kids can now effectively score 310 pts lower than Whites and 450 pts lower than Asians on the SAT to get into American universities.

So, I don't know how much easier it can be made? A Black kid can literally slack his way through school and still gain admission over an Asian or White kid busting his azz 16 hrs a day. Because of mentalities like yours.

 

And of course, affirmative action applies to the workplace as well..

I don't know about the source of the claim, or the reasoning for changing the scores, but there are reasons and history as to why there is a larger issue in some Black communities than white communities. (btw, Black is capitalized because it's also cultural, whereas white refers only to a colour)

 

And again, so you believe in the same racial/cultural stereotypes...that you also are offended by? :wacko:

 

Because I say cultures have some differences?

 

 

You obviously can't resist focusing on the minority of the minority when it comes to African Americans. I don't know what experience you had with probably a number of unpleasant individuals, but I'm sorry to see that it is has hardened your senses towards anyone that seems to share any cultural or racial similarity to them.

 

 

We're done talking.

 

 

H.E.

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~~~~ MOD COMMENT ~~~

 

This was supposed to be a discussion on xenophobia and cult mind-manipulation, and what we can learn from them about racism. It's become a dumping ground for sterotypes and racist propaganda, so I'm locking the topic until further notice.

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Just wanted to clarify, that the article was meant to address all racism by shining a light on how those techniques are manifest in white groups. It's not at all to say that white people are the only ones who have to overcome the sort of manipulation mentioned in the article. We are all subjected to it, and it acts on the subconscious level, perhaps even the energetic level.

It's obviously a horrible thing to have this block between people and cultures that could do so much good for each other, and I know it acts in my own subconscious at times before I realize it. While the results of the brainwashing are certainly condemnable, the article was written to reveal them, and not simply in condemnation; and the reason was to help people understand why people would be racist towards you without even knowing you, regardless of what race you are, or what race they are.

I'll leave it at that as writing takes a long time, especially when it's sensitive like this, lol..

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