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Posted 14 January 2007 - 10:00 PM

Hi All,

I was reading the description for the 6th Tibetan and to me it's purpose seems to be the same as "Drawing Nectar up to the Golden Flower" i.e. Mantak Chia's Big Draw.

I'm thinking that a "content life", which the books defines as "no sex", could have been better explained as semen retention. And "an excess of procreative energy; when there is a natural desire for its expression" is an erection (couldn't really print that back in the 30's I'm guessing :)

The actual method of the 6th Tibetan is different to the big draw, but it seems to be just another method of "sucking" energy up the spine, either not as well explained as the big draw or partially described for some reason. On the surface the 6th seems simpler, although probably a bit difficult to "do" if you were being intimate at the time :) I'm also guessing that practices described like this are the reason people shouldn’t learn from books as there isn’t very much information about what to do next, and / or safety precautions.

In fact there is so little information that all this could just be my imagination / wishfull thinking as I've been practicing the big draw recently. Has anyone else noticed this similarity or am I seeing connections that don't exist?

Mal

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Extracted from Peter Kelder’s “The Eye of Revelation”
The Five Tibetan Rites, Part Two: The Sixth Secret Rejuvenation Rite

Then again, I have not told you all there is to know. I have given you Five Rites which are for the express purpose of restoring one to manly vigor and vitality. These Five Rites also make one appear more youthful; but if you really want to look and be young in every respect there is a Sixth Rite that you must practice. I have said nothing about it until now because it would have been useless to you without first having obtained good results from the other five.

The Price of the Sixth Rite. The Colonel then informed them that in order to go further with the aid of this Sixth Rite it would be necessary for them to lead a more or less continent life. When he had first told them about the Sixth Rite, the Colonel had made it clear that the procreative energy would be lifted up, and that this lifting-up process would cause not only the mind to be renewed but the entire body as well; but that it entailed certain restrictions with which the average man did not care to conform. Then he went on with this explanation.
“In the average virile man,” said the Colonel, “the life forces course downward, but in order to become a Superman they must be turned upward. This we call ‘The Newer Use of the Reproductive Energy.’ Turning these powerful forces upward is a very simple matter, yet man has attempted it in many ways for centuries and in almost every instance has failed. There is only one way to master this powerful urge, and that is not by dissipating or suppressing it but by transmuting it—transmuting it and at the same time lifting it upward. In this way you really and truly have discovered not only the ‘Elixir of Life,’ as the ancients called it, but you have put it to use as well, which is something the ancients were seldom able to do.

“Now this Rite Number Six is the simplest thing in the world to perform. It should only be practiced when one has an excess of procreative energy; when there is a natural desire for its expression. It can be done so easily that it can be performed anywhere at any time. When one feels the powerful reproductive urge, here is all that is necessary:

“Stand erect and then let all the air out of the lungs, as one bends over and places his hands on his knees. Force out the last trace of air. Then, with empty lungs, stand erect, place hands on hips, and push down on them. This has a tendency to push up the shoulders. While doing this, pull in the abdomen just as far as possible, which raises the chest. Now hold this position as long as you can. Then when you are forced to take air into the empty lungs, let the air flow in through the nose. Exhale it through the mouth as you relax the arms and let them hang naturally at your sides. Then take several deep breaths through the mouth or nose and allow them to quickly escape through either the mouth or the nose. This constitutes one complete performance of Rite Number Six. About three are required to subdue the most masculine urge and to turn the powerful procreative or reproductive forces upward.

“The only difference there is between the average virile man and the Superman is that the virile lets the procreative urge flow downward while the Superman turns the procreative urge upward and reproduces within himself a new man—a strong, powerful, magnetic man who is constantly growing younger, day by day, moment by moment. This is the true Superman, who creates within himself the true ‘elixir of life.’ Now you understand why it was unnecessary for me to have left my native England to find the ‘Fountain of Youth’— it was within me all the time. Now you can see that when I wrote you some time ago that I had found ‘The Fountain of Youth’ and was bringing it back with me, I meant just that. The Five Rites and the ‘Fountain’ are one.

“Please understand that to perform Rite Number Six it is absolutely necessary that a man have full masculine virility. He couldn’t possibly raise up and transmute procreative energy if there were little or none to transmute. It is absolutely impossible for the impotent man or the one with little virility to perform this Rite. He shouldn’t even attempt it, because it would only lead to discouragement, which might do him great harm. Instead he should first practice the other Five Rites until he has full masculine power, and this regardless of how young or how old he may be. Then when the first full bloom of youth is experienced within him, he may, if he wishes, go on to the business of being a Superman.

“The man of the world is interested only in the material things of the world, and for that reason should practice only the first Five Rites until he feels the urge or desire within to become the Superman. Then he should decide definitely; for a clean-cut start and a new life are absolutely necessary to those who lead the super-life. They are the ones who become mystics, occultists, and adepts. They it is who truly see with The Eye of Revelation.
“Again I say, let no man concern himself with the up-turning of the sex currents until he is thoroughly satisfied in his own mind and heart that he truly desires to lead the life of the mystic; then let him make the step forward, and success will crown his every effort.”
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#2 DanC

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 01:55 AM

Can someone post instructions on how and when you perform the big draw..

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 06:51 AM

I can't speak for whether or not they are "the same" but they certainly seem to operate in similar areas. In the more recent editions (I guess having only seen my girlfriend's copy) he includes the "6th" Tibetan in the Five Tibetans. He also specifically states that those not leading a celibate life have even more reason to practice it that those that are, to replenish the "lost essence". Who knows, since most of us seem to agree that obsessive semen retention is not necessarily good, rather energy circulation seems to be the important part, perhaps that (like the Big draw) is what it is doing. Circulating the energy out of the so called physical essence (obviously not the only part of ching in the body) so that it doesn't actually matter if it is expelled. Two cents.

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 07:01 AM

Imo, practicing some form of energy circulation on a daily basis is the key to managing sexual energy when it's activated such as rite number 6, microcosmic orbit, spinal breathing, etc. And some form of meditation practice is key to managing the energy circulation practice. There are resources on advancedyogapractices.com that I follow and googling vajroli mudra might yield more info. This kind of "bandha" or breath lock practice is reserved for down the road in Indian traditions so maybe that's why the Colonel was reserved about the practice. Maybe googling "vacuum breath" would pull up more info too. So far, I've not incorporated it as a practice.

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 10:44 AM

"practicing some form of energy circulation on a daily basis is the key to managing..."

... and balancing extremes in your energy cycles, of which the various levels of arousal are interconnected.
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 08:58 PM

There are resources on advancedyogapractices.com


Great site! Thanks Yoda

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Posted 16 January 2007 - 08:26 AM

Eric,

I'm glad you like it. For the hindu yoga path I like to think the ayp site is definitive. For taoism, check out alchemicaltaoism.com if you haven't already.

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I was just flipping through Hittleman's "Yoga: 28 Day Exercise Plan" I love the book. Mom had a copy while I was growing up. I dig the retro hottie. He waits till the yoga student has 8 days of practice before rolling out rite 6...

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Posted 16 January 2007 - 05:03 PM

"Can someone post instructions on how and when you perform the big draw.."

Extract from Taoist Secrets of Love: Cultivating Male Sexual Energy (Paperback) C 1984
(does anyone elses copy have the diagrams reversed like mine?)

INTERNAL LOCKING: DRAW NECTAR UP TO THE GOLDEN FLOWER
More than any other part of the book this method requires close study. It explains in detail the essential practice of semen retention, transformation, and exchange of male and female energies. You will do well at first to adhere closely to the technique as I describe it. When you attain a fundamental mastery, you may experiment and make suitable changes. You will find certain techniques consistently effective. Everybody is different, so use what works best. Remember that seminal retention is a means to an end and not itself the ultimate goal. We save seed to gather energy so that we may more deeply delight in love and life.
True esoteric methods are not complicated. If only a genius can do it, it is probably no great practice. The simplicity of esoteric love is itself the real secret. I explain everything in fine detail so there will be no lingering questions or risk of misguiding you. But once you get it, its simple. For brevity’s sake I will refer to the practice of “Draw Nectar Up to the Golden Flower” as simply “The Big Draw.” This is the abbreviated term my English speaking students use in place of the more ancient Chinese name, and describes the process most succinctly
For the sake of clarity I have broken down the Big Draw method into its component parts. When practiced properly it is a single action performed by your unified body, mind, and soul. If you feel these three aspects of your person are not well integrated, work on mastering the Big Draw on the physical level and meditate everyday on the microcosmic orbit to aid in evenly distributing your energy. You may go through a rough period if you have a lot of blocks or impurities that your newly heightened chi is attempting to clean out. With continued practice you will feel the chi of your physical body become more integrated with the subtle sexual essence and spirit of your person. You will know this by the way your life begins to flow more smoothly and lovingly.

THE SECRET STEPS TO BLOCK EJACULATION IN THE BIG DRAW
To resist the urge to ejaculate you must block the nerve impulse that causes ejaculation. The basic technique for interrupting the impulse is strong, rapid clenching of the under trunk muscles, teeth and fists. You do this nerve-blocking after you have finished the first round of thrusting.

Step 1: Stop Thrusting, Squeeze Tightly and Retreat.
As a thrusting technique for the beginner I suggested three slow, shallow thrusts followed by one deep thrust to the bottom of the vagina. The most sensitive part of the vagina lies at the outer most two inches. This region is thickly covered with nerves and corresponds to the first two inches of a man’s penis. Deeper inside, the web of nerves grows less dense.
As you dive deeper she grows tighter. Consequently, seminal retention becomes more difficult. In terms of our “battle of the sexes” metaphor, plunging deeply too often is like repeatedly entering too far into enemy territory. There the encircling enemy overcomes you. Retreat from deep penetration is treacherous. To do it successfully requires great discipline and little movement.
With practice you build up first to six shallow, and later nine shallow, alternated with one deep thrust. If you are a novice at seminal retention, or if you encounter a new or exciting partner, you may find it difficult to go 81 shallow (and 9 deep) strokes before resting.
When you first sense ejaculation approaching, no matter what the number of strokes, stop thrusting and tightly close the urogenital diaphragm. When you stop thrusting do not pull out altogether. Retreat to about one inch of penetration in the vagina. Remain there until you’ve regained control. Thrusting itself generates a great deal of electricity. Still more electromagnetic energy is produced during the sex act because the hundreds of millions of sperm swim more quickly than usual. As energy accumulates in the genital system, local nerves shoot stimulation up the spinal column to the brain, which gives the order to fire. In this sense even genital orgasm really occurs in your mind. You are just training your mind to have a higher, more mentally and spiritually integrated orgasm.
If your partner tries to wrap her body around you and pull you in deeply, retreat to the point where she can no longer follow you. When she lowers her arched back, follow her down, staying near the mouth of her vagina. Teach the woman to rest when you need to recover your composure: never forget that she is your supreme ally when you gain her loving cooperation.

Step 2: Do 9 Rapid Hard Contractions While Holding The Breath.
After inhaling through the nose, quickly perform 9 very hard contractions of the entire under-trunk musculature, teeth and fists. This is a variation of the form you have been practicing as the Power Lock exercise in 36 repetitions. In that exercise you did one long muscle contraction for each deep breath. For the Big Draw you do 9 rapid muscular contractions for each breath. These contractions are very hard and absorb so much power that little energy remains in the nerves to trigger ejaculation. Do up to six sets of 9 contractions, until the urge to ejaculate leaves you.
With this method your excited sex energy tends to leave the nerves and lodge in the contracting muscles. The breath taken after 9 contractions must be drawn in quickly so that the nerve impulse is cut as frequently as possible. Repeating the 9 contractions 6 times should definitely reduce the urge to ejaculate. You may do less than the 6 sets of 9 contractions if fewer sets allow you to regain self-control. Because you are lying in the arms of a woman with your penis inside her vagina, your seed will be far more volatile, like a young bucking bronco with a spur under its saddle. The added nine contractions of the Big Draw are necessary at first to rein the seed under your control. In time you are able to remove the irritating bucking caused by the spur and enjoy a smooth and powerful ride.
Your genital glands expand in preparation for shooting forth the fluid. The Big Draw contractions reduce their size, literally squeezing the energy out of them and lessening sexual-electrical tension. The shorter the time interval between contractions, the greater the power of the muscles to grip the seed. If much time elapses between clenchings, the muscles get poor traction. Inhalation also must be too swift to allow energy to slip back into the genital region. Holding the breath through all 9 contractions weak ens the nerve impulse to ejaculate.
Your goal is to change the direction of the seminal fluid. Physically speaking, the speed of your sperm energy must be accelerated up the spine. Acceleration takes place only at the moment of muscle contraction itself and not while holding onto the contraction. Thus, it takes many separate contractions to drive the fluid deep into the body and defeat the urge to spend your seed.

Step 3: Clench Buttocks Tightly.
Tightly clench your buttocks. The importance of this cannot be overemphasized. The driving power of the largest muscle in the body must be turned to advantage. Bring the two cheeks together with such force that you actually lift up the whole body.
Maintaining good tone of the buttocks is crucially important for overall health. When this muscle is flaccid, power continuously drains out of the body. When it is firm one of the two main lower body energy leaks is plugged. The other lower body energy leak is through the penis in ejaculation.
One can tolerate pain more easily when clenching the muscles very tightly. Just as the nervous impulse called “pain” is weakened by hard muscular contraction, so is the nervous impulse to ejaculate weakened. In both cases the muscles absorb energy: this interferes with the nervous message. Contraction of certain key muscle groups withdraws energy from the genital area. Clenching the buttocks is especially helpful in breaking the nerve circuit between the brain and genitals at the base of the spine. Squeeze the buttocks until they are rock hard; the message to ejaculate is in effect intercepted and never delivered.

Step 4: Clench Teeth Tightly.
Clench your teeth and push your tongue hard to the roof of your mouth. Clenching the teeth tightly interrupts nervous flow at the head and neck. It also helps tighten the buttocks. These two muscle contractions must be simultaneous, so that they reinforce each other and secure complete locking. As you clench, press the semen deeper and deeper into the body. Greatest retraction of fluid occurs toward the end of the count: during the 7th, 8th and 9th clenchings you drive the fluid most deeply inward. Be irresistibly determined to force back the fluid. The contractions from 1 to 9 should grow harder and stronger.
As you prolong the act of intercourse, your pleasure will grow more intense. When you reach a high level of pleasure, you should keep the urogenital diaphragm constantly closed. This helps pre vent the sperm from sneaking halfway out the door. Stop the fluid behind the dam. When it has spilled over, attempts to stop it or to harness its power are futile. You must stop the ejaculation before the sperm has begun to move within the body.

Step 5: Pull The Wave Of Energy From Genitals to Head
The Big Draw may be conceived as an internal wave beginning with contraction at the penis tip, moving through the perineum and buttocks up the spine to the head. In this way the energy, travelling along the crest of voluntary muscular contraction, will be forced up to the crown.
If you have difficulty drawing power to the head, you may draw it first to the navel. After it accumulates there for a while, again direct the power down to the hui-yin and up the spine to the head. It should help it flow more easily, particularly if you have carefully harboured the seed.
Relaxation after the Big Draw di1ates the contracted blood vessels in the penis. It is actually at this point, where no effort at all is exerted, that you absorb the greatest amount of yin energy. During the Big Draw the woman’s power enters the man’s lower body. During relaxation the power shoots up to the higher centres. This effect is particularly noticeable when you have practiced the Power Lock Exercise.
At first the repeated exertion of the Big Draw may seem very difficult, and ruinous to love-making, but with practice it will be come easier to perform. Hold back the mutinous seed that would crash through the lower body door and disperse your powers. Your will power to control semen loss will grow stronger each time you use it. The stronger your will power to prevent loss of your sexual essence grows the greater your will power becomes in all of your life. In work, play, family relationships, your will to love and spiritually grow unfolds with a renewed vigour that daily will surprise you

Step 6: If Erection Is Lost, Begin Thrusting and Use Gentle Sucking. After the first round of thrusting and Hard Contractions, you may occasionally contract the penis head inside the woman while you are thrusting. The penis head is like a baby gently sucking milk at his mother’s breast. You begin to lightly draw the Yin in this manner. The Draw has greater effect when the penis is already filled with Yin energy from Gentle Sucking.
Keep clear in your mind the difference between the Gentle Sucking and the Big Draw. Gentle Sucking accompanies regular thrusting. Only the penis head, testes and uro-genital diaphragm are contracted: the rest of the muscles remain relaxed and do not draw in power. In this technique we do not drive the energy far. We prevent our own energy from inching forward and leaping out into the woman. We also fill the penis itself with energy which we will transfer to the head with the Big Draw.

BIG DRAW FOR WOMEN
The woman should also perform the Big Draw, using the vagina to suck in the Yang power from the man’s penis. The detailed explanation for women will be found in the next book, Ovarian Kung Fu. Until the detailed explanation appears, she may simply adapt the principles of Seminal Kung Fu and perform the Big Draw on her ovaries. Women often have a good intuitive understanding of the process; hence their sexual superiority. But higher levels of love always exist. I strongly suggest that women train to suppress her genital orgasm. This will appreciably reduce her loss of energy in the act of love. She too can gradually achieve a “higher” orgasm as a “mysterious portal” to the Tao. Man and woman can attain the Tao together by this way of “dual cultivation.”



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Hi Yoda,
Thanks for the link to http://www.aypsite.com very cool, I'll have to check out alchemicaltaoism.com too.


I found this usefull for me, from one of the AYP lessons.
"it is important to back off. That goes for all advanced yoga practices. We
back off when we know we are overdoing, because this is how we avoid
falling off the wagon of practices completely. We don't try and be
heroic and suffer though excessive difficulties. Always retreat if it
gets to be too much. Find your best stable platform of reduced
practice, and relax there before trying to move ahead again. You can
always come back and pick up where you left off another day."
Yogani

Cheers
KAP

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Posted 08 November 2013 - 08:40 PM

This is an old thread but I'd like to add a bit to it. Maybe someone else would as well. If you ask Google to search for the 6th Tibetan Rite this thread this is nearly all there is to choose from. So, I applaud TheTaoBums for providing this thread.

 

After reading the above posts I will add that semen retention and celibacy are two different things. The energy experience from each is vastly different. The Big Draw and the Sixth Rite have similarities and each can be used interchangeably. There is another version of this found in a most unlikely place: the teachings of Paul Bragg. His Super Power Breath is quite similar to the 6th Rite. Here is a description of it:

 

Exercise No.1, the Cleansing Breath

 

Stand erect, feet about 15 to 18 inches apart, hands and arms relaxed at your sides. Raise your hands overhead and take a deep breath (position 1). Now bend forward as far as possible - keeping your knees slightly bent and relaxed - exhaling at the same time through your mouth. Compress your chest and push upward with your diaphragm and abdominal muscles to expel all the stale air from your lungs.

Now slowly inhale through your nose and mouth, pushing downward with your diaphragm and expanding your chest at its front and sides. Continue to draw in air to the full capacity of your lungs as you return to a standing position, while bringing your arms upward in a half-circle to the overhead position.

To complete the Cleansing Breath Exercise: As your hands reach the overhead position, tighten your diaphragm and hold your breath for four or five seconds (mentally counting, One thousand one, one thousand two, etc.) while pulling your abdominal muscles back as if to pin your stomach to your backbone. Then exhale completely while bending forward, as at the beginning. Inhale as you return to the starting position.

Do this Cleansing Breath Exercise 5 times. (Super Power Breathing for Energy, by Paul Bragg)

 

I have my own twist on this kind of energy work which I have posted at http://thetaobums.co.../31684--/page-6 post #86.

 

So, semen retention suggests there is sexual activity going on, and celibacy means sublimation without sex. I suggest that the 6th Rite, the Super Power Breath and my version of this are most effective for being celibate. There are so many more convenient ways to sublimate sex energy during sex than getting out of bed to do this yoga pose.

 

The real beauty of these yoga poses goes beyond sex. They are grounding and will balance emotions. If you are sexually aroused and don't want to be, perform one of these yoga poses and you will not be aroused, not in the slightest. If you are depressed or angry, performing this same yoga pose will eliminate these negative emotions. The Taoist would say that you have transmuted them into positive emotions. However you want to look at this, the results of performing this kind of yoga pose is a change of your emotional state. Here is a quote from a letter I recently sent to a friend who is trying to be celibate.

 

Do you know what the terms, "grounded," "centered," or "balanced" refer to? When negative thoughts or emotions (sometimes experienced as a memory) pop onto the stage of your mind, you feel off center, or unbalanced. You will find that prayer restores peace. This 6th Rite also restores peace. If you are feeling angry or depressed and nothing seems to help, then perform the 6th Rite and watch how you suddenly become grounded again. There are lot of ways to do this. For instance, standing in a river with bare feet firmly planted on bedrock grounds the negative energies and restores peace. Doing something nice for someone, shifting your focus from your internal problems to another, also restore inner peace. And, all of this is tied to sex energy (which is just another word for life energy).



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Posted 09 November 2013 - 06:34 AM

Here is how to perform the 6th Rite again, singled out of the book's text:

 

Sixth Tibetan Rite

 

Now, rite number six is the easiest thing in the world to perform. It should be practiced only when you feel an excess of sexual energy, and there is a natural desire for its expression. Fortunately, this rite is so simple that you can do it anywhere, at any time, whenever the urge is felt. Here's all you do: 

 

Stand straight up and slowly let all of the air out of our lungs. As you do this, bend over and put your hands on your knees. Force out the last trace of air, and then, with the lungs empty, return to a straight up posture. Place your hands on your hips, and press down on them. This will push your shoulders up. As you do this, pull in the abdomen as much as possible, *which raises the chest.

Now, hold this position as long as you possibly can. When you are finally forced to take air into your empty lungs, let the air flow in through the nose. When the lungs are full, exhale through the mouth. As you exhale, relax your arms, letting them hang naturally at your sides. Then take several deep breaths through the mouth or nose, allowing them to escape through either the mouth or nose. This constitutes one complete performance of rite number six. About three repetitions are required for most people to redirect sexual energy and turn its powerful force upward. (The Fountain of Youth, by Peter Kelder)

 

* The phrase, "Which raises the chest" is taken from the original book, "Eye of Revelation".

 

I would like to make an addition to the way this yoga pose is performed. When sex energy is drawn upward into the body it acts as an amplifier: if you are angry then uplifted sex energy will make you more angry. If you are joyful, you become more so, if sad, it deepens into depression. Do you get it? The uplifted sex energy does not judge, it simply amplifies what is already there.

 

If you place your hands over your heart center as you breathe deeply after each repetition of the 6th Rite, the uplifted sex energy is transmuted into love energy. Therefore it is love that gets amplified as you perform this yoga pose. You can place your hands on your chest, palms down, one on top of the other, or you can press your palms together, fingers extended, and place this over your heart center, or you can cross your forearms over the heart center as the Masons do. Each culture has its traditional methods for this. Experiment and see what works best for you.






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