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#49 ChiDragon

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 05:02 PM

Harold....
You're welcome and thank you very much. I wish you well too.

It can be either past or present tense. It was the thought that counts.

The reason I chose the word was because, the character 着, was implicating 着迷(spellbound). Thus if there was nothing serious in the mind to be occupied, then, the other minor things are insignificant as compared to all. Finally, that will let you to attain the state of 静.

Edited by ChiDragon, 14 January 2013 - 06:44 PM.

靜觀其變 以靜制動
Beware of the unexpected silently
Handle adversity with calmness

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#50 Harmonious Emptiness

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    Putting Classical Chinese thoughts into English words.

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 05:17 PM

心中一无所着,一念一无所思


Another way to word it (en mon avis):

心Mind 中Centered 一at one 无without 所dwelling 着movement,一one 念thought, 一at one 无Without 所dwelling in(located in) 思 contemplation.

Mind centered and at one, not scattered, nor in habitual movement. The only thought is on the one, without dwelling on this contemplation.


nice. Thanks for sharing :D .

Edited by Harmonious Emptiness, 14 January 2013 - 07:30 PM.

Be humble, believe in yourself.

"Will is a functionary of desire. When you have many desires, then your mind is scattered; when your mind is scattered, then your will deteriorates. When your will deteriorates, then thought does not attain its object." (from "Master of Demon Valley" trans. by Thomas Cleary


#51 Harold

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 11:34 PM

心中一无所着,一念一无所思。

no catching fire within the heartmind, one-pointed thought without place for thinking.

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#52 Harold

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 11:44 PM

I hope you realize he is not a teacher... but your welcome to call him whatever you want if it helps you. Back to class.


wish you the realization that everyone can be your teacher if you`re willing to be taught;-)

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 09:31 AM

心中一无所着,一念一无所思。

no catching fire within the heartmind, one-pointed thought without place for thinking.

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Did you get the "fire" idea from 着火....???

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 09:53 AM

yes, did you know that the very ancient character for 气 had the meaning of "no fire"?
According to Huai-Chin Nan fire in the very archaic character for Chi can be associated with the fire of the mind, which stands for a restless mind, wandering thoughts, all kinds of wishful desires. In the absence of that kind of fire the real Chi then could show up.
In Traditional Chinese Medicine the secondary fire is the fire that is restlessly wandering through the body, while the primary fire is all good as it is in the right place in the right state.
When no false ideas arise from the 心 (heartmind),then a focused mind would be possible.
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#55 ChiDragon

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 12:01 PM



Yes, the pictograph of this Chi character with two radicals, 旡(none) and 火(fire), indicating "no fire"

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 07:49 PM

心中一无所着,一念一无所思


IMO... The Key is in two forms:
1. Wu Ji stance -心中一无所着- heart/mind is centered in harmonious emptiness
2. Tai Ji Empty step - 一念一无所思- Singular focus [step] is empty of [weighted] distraction

The first half is the original state of Wu Ji; The second half is the motive state of Tai Ji.

The change from Empty [heart] to Focus [heart] is without any distraction.

Now... perform the Tai Ji empty step with this in mind... There is a step which occurs but there is no weight nor distraction from the singular purpose of stepping without weight.




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