How did you get here?
Posted 05 February 2011 - 05:04 AM
Any other examples of seemingly bad becoming seemingly good?
Posted 05 February 2011 - 05:19 AM
Posted 05 February 2011 - 05:49 AM
I'm just curious how many folks here are here because life did you in in some way.
Mine was a speech impediment - stuttering. It finally went away when I was 27. I am now in my late 40's. still healing...
All the best. good topic.
Posted 05 February 2011 - 05:55 AM
I'm just curious how many folks here are here because life did you in in some way. Most of the younger people, I wouldn't expect that to be the case. But maybe the older ones? In my case, it was alcoholism, pure and simple. I merely had to find a way to live comfortably in my skin without booze to mask the feelings, which for some reason I was always afraid to experience or emote. It required changing my thinking about life 180 degrees. That brought to my attention the spiritual path. It was 1981 when I got sober, and I had to go through an obnoxious born-again Christian thing at the beginning. The evolution has continued since then.
Any other examples of seemingly bad becoming seemingly good?
Good Morning Manitou-
Part of the reason I ended up here....life handed me a childhood of various forms of abuse, and then I managed to marry a man who abused me then my daughters in the same way I was abused as a child. He (and his entire family) are Bible thumping Christians. Anytime I argued about what I felt was wrong with what we were subjected to in church...which I did often, ended up in week long arguments. Then the day I found out about my girls...I turned my back forever on organized religion. Between the Catholicism I grew up with (after a very young childhood of being exposed to Zen Buddhism by my Japanese side of the family- going to Catholic church really perplexed me!!) and the hypocritical "church family" from my marriage...DONE.
Once I broke free, I found myself thinking back to the Zen Buddhism. Little by little, I started exploring other studies of spirituality. Looking back now, I went to what IMO was as far as I could from christianity to basically Paganism. Lol silly Bee thinking I was so HA take that! It took a while to just finally realize that I needed to find me. In doing so I found my way to amazing things. A new life with my children. A real love. Even to this day, I am still finding myself. The TTC has helped me with that. It helps me, everyday. To finally let go of residual anger. To open my eyes and see. I came to it because part of me was Tao without ever knowing..and knowing now is just AWESOME!
Peace and Love
Edited by TaoBee, 05 February 2011 - 05:57 AM.
Posted 05 February 2011 - 12:57 PM
-From that day forward i have been cultivating myself in one way or another. My path has led me to meditation and chi-kung and i will continue practicing for rest of my life.
"The Divine grows from crap!" ME
Posted 05 February 2011 - 01:27 PM
Posted 05 February 2011 - 01:37 PM
Posted 05 February 2011 - 01:38 PM
Thanks to all above who were brave enough to share.
Echoes of my life in the above posts...
Thanks again to all here who tread the path and stealthily keep me on it.
Seek not to follow in the footsteps of men of old; seek what they sought. - Matsuo Basho
Meeting of the Minds Illumination
Posted 05 February 2011 - 01:54 PM
In my case, in this lifetime the events of my childhood would warrant a spiritual path for healing purposes, but it wasn't. I was always a very sporty and energetic kind of person and practiced several of the so-called "adventure sports": rock and mountain climbing, cycling and freediving. This last sport is the one that involves heaps of breathing exercises, mainly pranayama and other meditative practices. No need to continue what happened to me next once I started slow breathing while sitting on the floor...
Funny thing. So did I.
Found myself in Austria for the season of 92, skiing, and after months of doing the same thing over and over again, I found myself lying in the forest with my skis on, breathing heavy after a wipeout, and happened to stumbled over, just by accident, something I much later would recognize as a genuine spiritual experience.
And for the most part, it has brought with it a shitload of trouble. After that, things really didn't make sense the way it used to. And I've been trying to cope ever since.
Meditation, qigong, philosophy, art. It all ended up being this big pretense.
Only later, realizing my huge hubris of copying an experience of reality did I come across the realization:
how tremedously idiotic it is to chase after the experience of losing one's self consciousness.
Better yet how destined to be its own downfall any attempt to gain insight into experience by having an experience is. No matter how groovy.
And how basically stupid it is to work at something that eludes any understanding.
But I guess there's nothing else to do, like a mosquito drawn to a flame. No use trying not to get burned in this life.
Posted 05 February 2011 - 03:32 PM
Then some misuse of qi-gong and "energy arts" in an attempt to rectify - leading to a K crisis. Then finding TTB's, KAP, and all the good people here.
There's still probably something wrong with me, but it doesn't feel half as awful as it used to And I'm working on the bits that need working on.
Posted 05 February 2011 - 04:12 PM
The rest remain like this, sleeping beauties:
I like to use this example even though it is just a movie. But hey when I first saw it I was still unawakened.
Posted 05 February 2011 - 05:00 PM
Posted 05 February 2011 - 05:21 PM
I started with fundamentalist Christianity. After learning about some of the shady things going on behind the scenes at churches I was going to, I was really disillusioned. It seemed like no one was taking this spirituality stuff seriously. This, in combination with severe clinical depression and an enjoyment of black and death metal pretty much turned me from Christianity for good. I spent a long time as a nihilist, and then was given a book called "Illusions" by Richard Bach. This book really struck a cord with me, and it made me begin to question my hard materialist view on the world (I was stoned off my rocker when I read it too, so I had a really open mind ).
After looking up more information about the book, I got led to a site detailing studies of NDEs. That led to sites on astral projection and dreaming (I spent a lot of time over at Robert Bruce's forum, some really nice people over there!). I never got into any serious practice of anything though, I was mostly just reading anything I could get my hands on. Eventually I came across Taoism, and I think my initial introduction planted a seed.
Recently I'd taken a hard look at my life and decided it was time to start taking responsibility, and also time to look for a path I could dedicate myself to. All signs pointed to Taoism (including a Tarot reading by a gypsy friend at the renaissance festival, interestingly enough ), and having been familiar with these forums from both Half Past Human and J.J. Semple's Golden Flower Meditation site...well, it just seemed a natural place to come to as I started my journey.
Posted 05 February 2011 - 07:08 PM
Posted 05 February 2011 - 07:44 PM
life has been kicking my ass since since I was 4
However, your "true nature" will always remain the same, indestructible. Take this life as another experience and enjoy your spiritual path, whatever it might be.
I like the words written by hindu-saint Sri Anandamayi Ma when she met Parahamsa Yogananda:
"Father, there is little to tell." She spread her graceful hands in a deprecatory gesture. "My consciousness has never associated itself with this temporary body. Before I came on this earth, Father, I was the same. As a little girl, I was the same. I grew into womanhood, but still I was the same. When the family in which I had been born made arrangements to have this body married, 'I was the same... And, Father, in front of you now, I am the same. Ever afterward, though the dance of creation changes around me in the hall of eternity, I shall be the same."
Posted 06 February 2011 - 01:59 AM
From that day on 15 years ago, my spiritual quest started.
I don't know if I'll ever find the answer though.
Believe nothing. Question everything.
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