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#1 GrandTrinity

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Posted 21 March 2006 - 07:19 AM

I have been thoroughly enjoying this form, and the book is amazing too, anyone else? I was sent two copies of the DVD by accident, in case we have a bum here who like to bum it off me...this form has SUUUCH great lineage chi...doing it after Qigong recharge yesterday, on both directions, was almost too much, today, I feel great, and my balls are pulsing, a realllly powerful form indeed!
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#2 thaddeus

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Posted 21 March 2006 - 08:10 AM

I have been thoroughly enjoying this form, and the book is amazing too, anyone else? I was sent two copies of the DVD by accident, in case we have a bum here who like to bum it off me...this form has SUUUCH great lineage chi...doing it after Qigong recharge yesterday, on both directions, was almost too much, today, I feel great, and my balls are pulsing, a realllly powerful form indeed!

Can you describe some of the main points of this chigung? Why are your balls pulsing? Curious if it is doing some kind of pressure breathing or fascia manipulation..

#3 BobD

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Posted 21 March 2006 - 08:40 AM

Got any links to the book or dvd for us to check out?

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Posted 21 March 2006 - 10:31 AM

I have been thoroughly enjoying this form, and the book is amazing too, anyone else? I was sent two copies of the DVD by accident, in case we have a bum here who like to bum it off me...this form has SUUUCH great lineage chi...doing it after Qigong recharge yesterday, on both directions, was almost too much, today, I feel great, and my balls are pulsing, a realllly powerful form indeed!


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I have had the great good fortune of studying with Master Wu here in Portland since early February.
I have no hesitation in acknowledging him as a master.

I am learning his Shamanic orbit Chi kung which is a method of opening the channels using mudra and mantra.
Actually the Mantra's are really more like tones for sending vibrations for different purposes.

I am also learning his Fire Dragon Chi Kung which is a really beautiful meridian opening chikung with some intricate movements. I especially like the combination of practicing chikung while in a challenging deep horse stance. A workout and chi opening blissful experience at the same time.

I have his book and video on Tiger chi kung and they are very good. My plan is to take on this much longer form of tiger chikung after I have really integrated the other two shorter forms. I want to study deeply all that he has to offer.

And all those of you out there who have the funds, please support master Wu with your purchase, you will not be dissappointed. Check out his website at http://www.masterwu.net/

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#5 Cameron

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Posted 21 March 2006 - 12:32 PM

I was planning on getting the DVD sooner or later. I'll make it sooner. Cool, that you study with him Live Craig.

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Posted 21 March 2006 - 01:02 PM

I was planning on getting the DVD sooner or later. I'll make it sooner. Cool, that you study with him Live Craig.

I was thinking the book might be better. There's a clip on the dragondoor website. If he's just showing the movements it would be cool as a reference, however as I think many of us have been exposed to so many chigungs and internal martial arts, I'd rather read his descriptions of what is happening internally.
I might download the electronic copy..
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Posted 21 March 2006 - 07:21 PM

Yes, visit dragondoor.com and support master wu!

He is the man!

Definetly get the book and look at the moves, he also talks about other universal things. You will want to get the video transmission for sure. Look at the reviews for this baby, all the best qi gong white-boys love him.

I'm wondering what the fire dragon is like and his other techniques, do you recommend getting the booklet people were talking about before? You say the fire dragon is not as long as the Tiger?
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Posted 21 March 2006 - 09:34 PM

Wu will be in Asheville teaching the Shamanic Orbit and Tiger forms April 1-5.

Contact:

Cosmic Chi Center
Michael Malone & Teresa Gibbs
visit artsofliving.com
828-299-7865

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Posted 22 March 2006 - 07:25 PM

is it a very complex form or is it simply, does the book cover anything else like meditation etc etc..

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Posted 27 March 2006 - 06:58 AM

I have been thoroughly enjoying this form, and the book is amazing too, anyone else? I was sent two copies of the DVD by accident, in case we have a bum here who like to bum it off me...this form has SUUUCH great lineage chi...doing it after Qigong recharge yesterday, on both directions, was almost too much, today, I feel great, and my balls are pulsing, a realllly powerful form indeed!

Hey, so I was skeptical as hell. However, I have to say after downloading his book, that it's a real pleasure to read.
You are not going to find any great technical secrets revealed in there. But it's something I feel if a beginner started reading, they would be on a great start. I can't say that about most of the qigong books out there.
There's a lot of great information on chinese superstition thinking, which I like to read about (not because I believe in it per se, but because if you understand it and appreciate it, you can gain some understanding of the language and mindset of alot of the oldtimers). Also, if you are interested in the history and stories behind the chinese characters, get this book just for that.
Master Wu's sincerity comes off the pages. This is somebody I would make an effort to meet and study with if I could. If you remember I once asked if there were any sources that were non-mantakchia, well this guy is it.
I'm looking forward to meeting him one day.
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Posted 28 March 2006 - 06:16 AM

Yes, visit dragondoor.com and support master wu!

He is the man!

Definetly get the book and look at the moves, he also talks about other universal things. You will want to get the video transmission for sure. Look at the reviews for this baby, all the best qi gong white-boys love him.

I'm wondering what the fire dragon is like and his other techniques, do you recommend getting the booklet people were talking about before? You say the fire dragon is not as long as the Tiger?



About Shamani Tiger Chi Kung - Book and Movie.

After taking a few classes with Master Wu I purchased his book. I had begun to study shamanic orbit chikung and FireDragon Chikung and mentioned to him that maybe I should refrain from beginning to study the Shamanic Tiger chikung, his reply was that the book had a lot of philosophy, and so I could get something out of it more than just to begin studying the tiger form. His perspective is correct - naturally he would know wouldn't he? I enjoy the book. I haven't really used it for the moves, but the discussion of the meaning of the moves is really good stuff which wouldn't fit into the DVD.

The DVD is EXCELLENT. Good production value too.
The form is amazing to watch. I have not started to practice it yet as I feel I need to work the other material first. If you want to learn the form primarily, get the DVD and then if called to explore deeper, get the Book. If you want to know a bit more of where Master Wu is coming from primarily, then get the book.

The form is complex. After watching it I read somewhere on his website or on Amazon that this was a 24 movement form. This makes is sound simpler than what is my perception on watching it. Of course complexity of forms is a relative thing. If you do TaiChi longform maybe this is not terribly difficult.
For me it is a big piece to chew on.

Regarding- FIREDRAGON Chi Kung.
I don't know if he lists it on his website, but he does have a DVD of the form. It seems tohave been done privately, but it is good enough quality to learn from. I am sure if you contact Master Wu he will be able to offer this. This is a simple meridian chikung form, and it is also not so simple.
To contrast and compare with M.Winns 8extra vessels chikung form (which I also love) I would say that the end result of the practice is a nice flow, but that M.Wu's form is MUCH MORE physically challenging and works the body more on a structural muscular level. whereas M.Winns 8Xtra form goes more extensively into all the channels and the core channel with intention and movement guidance, it does so while remaining quite still physically.
This form moves the body around quite a bit and if done properly is in quite a DEEP horse stance. Being a martial artist I naturally strive to match M.Wu's movements, and it has been KICKING MY ASS. Net result is that my body feels good and my chi is flowing after doing this form. First time I have really felt worked out and charged up with chi simultaneously to such a great extent. though I have experienced this to a lesser degree with other internal MA training (Bagua/Hsing I etc.)
This form is also not simple and it has some beautiful movement that shifts you from side to side and up and down. Like any internal MA, there is a lot going on in even the small movements. So, now that I have the framework down there is a lot of filling in to do!

Re-Shamanic orbit chi kung.
Nothing available but the pamphlett (Kudo's to M.Teeter who I just realized was credited in that pamphlett)
I am still learning this form. It is GOOD stuff and I hope M.Wu puts it to DVD sometime, though this is much more internal and still than the other forms mentioned, and is in a way more of a meditation form.
Just learning the first sound (mantra) which he teaches is great for opening up the front channel and sinking your chi.
More on this form later as I get more into it.

Cheers

Craig
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Posted 28 March 2006 - 08:34 AM

There is a DVD for the Wu's Fire Dragon form. It was made here in Asheville a couple of years ago and at the same time the Shamanic Orbit was taped. I would not attempt to learn the Fire Dragon from DVD though. It's rather complicated and you want the direct live transmittion.

I did put the Shamainc Orbit booklet together for Wu a couple of years ago. It was his first publication in English. We stayed up for 3 days doing it then played music for a couple of days before the NQA conference. I just mixed down the music sessions, still deciding what to do with it.

Yea Craig, i too aspire to move like Wu. He carries himself with a certain inspiring grace and fluidity.

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Posted 28 March 2006 - 03:29 PM

There is a DVD for the Wu's Fire Dragon form. It was made here in Asheville a couple of years ago and at the same time the Shamanic Orbit was taped. I would not attempt to learn the Fire Dragon from DVD though. It's rather complicated and you want the direct live transmittion.

I did put the Shamainc Orbit booklet together for Wu a couple of years ago. It was his first publication in English. We stayed up for 3 days doing it then played music for a couple of days before the NQA conference. I just mixed down the music sessions, still deciding what to do with it.

Yea Craig, i too aspire to move like Wu. He carries himself with a certain inspiring grace and fluidity.

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Thanks for you input.
As I mentioned before your mileage may vary as far as what you can get from studying a video image.
I think this form is very learnable from the tape and it has helped very much for me to get the form.
When is the last time you were able to pause the teacher any time you want to study the intricacy of the movements. Remember we are talking to Taobums all over the world here. I heartily recommend getting the DVD if that calls to you.

By the way, someone else on this Forum was talking about doing the Tiger form from the DVD and that is MUCH more complex than the Fire Dragon chikung.

Music, I like his music so much I even put his DVD in and just left the intro playing on my computer in my hotel room while doing other things.

I'm off to study with him in a couple of hours. Any yes I feel priveledged and grateful for the oppurtunity.

May we meet again soon. Just haven't been able to come up with a good enough excuse to go on a jaunt to Asheville yet.

Cheers

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Posted 13 April 2006 - 04:06 AM

Must say I was dissapointed with "Vital Breath of the Dao" though. A nice introduction to chinese mythology and qigong but not much more. Ever since I read Wu's excellent and very different article "Exploring the meaning of the Pure Yang Hand Mudra" I've had my eyes out for this guy.

I had expected a bit more practical lore or some description of mudras and their effect and mythological and symbolical meaning, or at least tales that I hadn't heard before, but no. And regarding chinese shamanism, "W" there where embarrasingly little information to be found IMHO! It's like writing a book about shamanic qigong but without managing to mention the shamanic side at all except in passing and a quick broad general description of the concept that leaves you none the wiser. At least Wu could have poured out a discussion on what differs this tradition from your average qigong lineage.

Other than that the book was nicely structured and the typography was nice with a lot of details put into showing the chinese characters correctly.

So unfortunately not a very good review from me, mostly because of my very high expectations on this book. But I do hope mr. Wu spills some more of his wisdom in the next book he has planned to write. Coz I really do believe that he has quite a lot to teach.

Edited by DustWalker, 13 April 2006 - 04:09 AM.


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Posted 13 April 2006 - 06:51 AM

Must say I was dissapointed with "Vital Breath of the Dao" though. A nice introduction to chinese mythology and qigong but not much more. Ever since I read Wu's excellent and very different article "Exploring the meaning of the Pure Yang Hand Mudra" I've had my eyes out for this guy.

I had expected a bit more practical lore or some description of mudras and their effect and mythological and symbolical meaning, or at least tales that I hadn't heard before, but no. And regarding chinese shamanism, "W" there where embarrasingly little information to be found IMHO! It's like writing a book about shamanic qigong but without managing to mention the shamanic side at all except in passing and a quick broad general description of the concept that leaves you none the wiser. At least Wu could have poured out a discussion on what differs this tradition from your average qigong lineage.

Other than that the book was nicely structured and the typography was nice with a lot of details put into showing the chinese characters correctly.

So unfortunately not a very good review from me, mostly because of my very high expectations on this book. But I do hope mr. Wu spills some more of his wisdom in the next book he has planned to write. Coz I really do believe that he has quite a lot to teach.

Good point about the shamanic part. There really is no explanation of why the term is used at all.
Regarding your expectations, I guess all books are like this. They explain a form and some tidbits, but that's it. That's why I said it's a good start for a beginner. I don't think someone would go wrong by starting with this guy. He provides a solid enough foundation. But for jaded people like most of us here, yeah, you're right. Btw, anyone have any books that do provide good detail on the internal stuff?
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Posted 28 August 2006 - 06:23 AM

I have been working on this form for a month or so and I really love it.
I am a bit of a qigong newb as my only other experience is with Winns fundamentals 1,I do 5 animals every morning.
The tiger qigong is really different.Its great for the shoulders,elbows and wrists. It gives me a charged up energy feeling even restless sometimes where 5 animals is relaxing.Once when I was doing bi-naural beat meditation afterwards it I felt like energy was flowing through my arms and legs.It also makes me feel really pumped or strong in my diapram,ribcage and lungs.

I think I may switch to shamanic tiger in the morning and 5 animals in the evening.




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