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#1 Hugo Darien

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Posted 23 April 2010 - 01:02 PM

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Posted 23 April 2010 - 03:21 PM

lol kewl :lol: :wub:
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Posted 23 April 2010 - 04:02 PM

Jesus Christ, not this again .. ...


if they actually CAN do it.....


they can do it through MANY MANY YEARS OF TRAINING/CULTIVATION WITH NO DESIRE AND NO INTENTION OF EVER BEING ABLE TO DO SO; they do it by not trying to do it.

And trying to do it...this is where most fail.
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Posted 23 April 2010 - 10:45 PM

Anyone can send Qi out of their body. Only you need to be well cultivated yourself to be able to push people around etc. more "amazing kewl" stuff.

But to help open other people's (or animals, or plants') energy blockages for example, or just to give them some good energy, all you need to do is ask for loving energy from the universe or whoever represents the universe to you. Then guide that energy through your fingers to break blockages. Then pull the blockage out with your fingers. Repeat several times. Then give healing, comforting energy through your palm.

I'm not a very "high level" practicioner but I've been able to heal headaches, stomach pains, muscle tightness, respiration problmes etc. using this "sword fingers" method described in Spring Forest Qigong.

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Posted 23 April 2010 - 10:54 PM

Jesus Christ, not this again .. ...


if they actually CAN do it.....


they can do it through MANY MANY YEARS OF TRAINING/CULTIVATION WITH NO DESIRE AND NO INTENTION OF EVER BEING ABLE TO DO SO; they do it by not trying to do it.

And trying to do it...this is where most fail.


Completely inaccurate. The Thunder Mind School is based on a method very similar to, if not the same as Gary Clyman IOW Temple Style Tai Chi. You train everyday just so that you can manifest outside of your body.

People start talking about power and then a huge debate over whether or not you can train to attain begins. The answer is YES. YES you can train to perform. Tenaga Dalam can produce results in 2 weeks. You can make eggs harder to break, bulbs, etc. Iron Palm as well.

This training is no different than strength training. You need the drive of motivation to put in the effort. You need the right training regiment. I would say that most people would tell you that it's better not to dwell on power but if that's what keeps you motivated then whatever. I also think that most people who say not to dwell on it are the ones that dont have "it". This of course is my opinion and I know nothing.
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#6 S-Curve

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Posted 23 April 2010 - 11:24 PM

Maybe they can do it maybe they can't. Is it possible? Certainly.

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Posted 24 April 2010 - 10:42 AM

I know Matrix Energetics has been discussed on another thread previously and what one can accomplish using the tools learned in the system and this is neither a plug nor recommendation for it.

For the past few months, I've been hanging out at their website and have read the posts of various practitioners and one of things people seem to pick up effortlessly is the moving of energy, chi, ki or whatever you want to call it.

Dr. Richard Bartlett had studied over 40 energetic paradigms and in his research discovered that when you're using a "system" you have to play by the rules of the system....Why does something such as moving energy have to require years of study and had work?

Could it be as easy as tapping into the "Morphic Field" ala Rupert Sheldrake of chi, prana etc and all disciplines and use them instantaneously?

People are doing this now.

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Posted 24 April 2010 - 10:51 AM

Yay! My favourite topic :wub: So..... who can prove this stuff is real in some kinda controlled demo? :ninja: :lol:

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Posted 24 April 2010 - 12:22 PM

Anyone can send Qi out of their body. Only you need to be well cultivated yourself to be able to push people around etc. more "amazing kewl" stuff.

But to help open other people's (or animals, or plants') energy blockages for example, or just to give them some good energy, all you need to do is ask for loving energy from the universe or whoever represents the universe to you. Then guide that energy through your fingers to break blockages. Then pull the blockage out with your fingers. Repeat several times. Then give healing, comforting energy through your palm.

I'm not a very "high level" practicioner but I've been able to heal headaches, stomach pains, muscle tightness, respiration problmes etc. using this "sword fingers" method described in Spring Forest Qigong.


Now that you brought that up. I've noticed some schools teach healers to act as a vessel of the universal energy, whilst others encourage the healer to use his personal storage of Chi, which well apparently can get depleted. Is this some sort of a misunderstanding or are there legitimately at least two different ways to do this; and why would one consider the later instead of the former considering there are stories about healers dying specifically due to a drainage or depletion of energy because of transfers. Wouldn't it be safer for everyone to just do whats safer... why if at all are there variations to this; is there a benefit with each method?

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#10 Hugo Darien

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Posted 24 April 2010 - 02:08 PM

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Edited by Hugo Darien, 08 July 2010 - 03:59 PM.


#11 Hugo Darien

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Posted 24 April 2010 - 02:25 PM

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Edited by Hugo Darien, 08 July 2010 - 03:59 PM.


#12 Ya Mu

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Posted 24 April 2010 - 04:40 PM

Hello

Thunder mind school, dragon gate, some genuine Shaolin etc can send Qi out of their fingers or body like electricity.

How do they do, how many schools do you know that can do that.

any comments or questions, are welcome

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Posted 25 April 2010 - 06:49 AM

http://www.thetaobum...-qi-projection/


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have you not read the book's written by Kosta Danaos?.



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Edited by sabretooth, 25 April 2010 - 06:51 AM.

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Posted 27 April 2010 - 07:38 AM

Now that you brought that up. I've noticed some schools teach healers to act as a vessel of the universal energy, whilst others encourage the healer to use his personal storage of Chi, which well apparently can get depleted. Is this some sort of a misunderstanding or are there legitimately at least two different ways to do this; and why would one consider the later instead of the former considering there are stories about healers dying specifically due to a drainage or depletion of energy because of transfers. Wouldn't it be safer for everyone to just do whats safer... why if at all are there variations to this; is there a benefit with each method?

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My take on this is that it all has to do with raising the energy body vibrational rate. Most practitioners (who haven't cultivated) of methods that "just channel universal qi" get mild results. Practitioners who have cultivated can get much deeper results. What the practitioners of the "just channel universal" qi don't realize is that they DO use their own energy as well.

One way of looking at this is to use the analogy of the power line coming into the transformer. Could we hook up our lights, air conditioning, refrigerator, etc to that line? What would happen if we did? It is, of course, not in a format that is compatible with what we are trying to do (run lights, etc).
So, when we want to do a healing we DO use our own energy (help put energy into a format compatible with what the task demands) AND that of the universe (and the actual vibrations we are capable of tapping into depend on the practice and how much we have raised our energy body vibration rate.

Most practitioners of the "just channel universal qi" methods do not understand sick qi. I have worked on many of these folks who became ill because of the work they were doing. Energy healing is not something to play at.

Edited by Ya Mu, 27 April 2010 - 07:39 AM.


#15 Hugo Darien

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Posted 27 April 2010 - 09:19 AM

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Posted 27 April 2010 - 12:44 PM

Some may even die!

When you heal someone there you put your Qi on the person Qi field, the Master feel tire or can even died if he give to much qi to the healing person. a stone can be black

Yes, if a person does nothing to protect themselves, works on too many people, or doesn't practice cultivation it can lead to death. A qigong practice that displaces any sick qi absorbed is worth its weight in gold. One still has to be very careful. I say no one should do healing unless they feel called to do it. If anyone feels called, then they should educate themselves. Playing around is a bad thing to do. It continually amazes me that something as complicated as medical qigong - in it's own way as complicated as brain surgery - is played around with where the same person doing said playing would be horrified if someone suggested they play around with brain surgery.




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